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Okay, I was just making sure since I just read the rules and everything and I don't want to have a conversation in the wrong area.

Generally, asking about tulpas is fine, anywhere.

Okay, thanks.

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#tulpa-questions, #lounge, and #tulpa-discussion are all good places to ask (and I guess #metaphysics if your beliefs on tulpas are of a metaphysical nature)

Well, um.. A lot. I have read through a whole lot of the guides to tulpamancy and I tried it for about two and a half months but I had some things come up and I just stopped. I've felt bad about it ever since and I know that is pretty looked down upon in the tulpamancy world. I just don't know where to begin, I guess that's what I am trying to say.

I would suggest starting to force, again.

eh. Really just pick up where you left off. Tulpa's understand intent above everything else, so whatever progress you made, they likely understood why you stopped

Do you both have Tulpa's of your own?

aye

Yes.

Emily is roughly four months old

My tulpa is almost three.

Seeing you say that you have Tulpa's just amazes me in a good way. I know two and a half months doesn't seem like a long time but I tried so hard to create Quantum. Not forcing her to just be alive in an instant but I did the beginner stuff and I always had these thoughts of "What if this isn't working?" "This may never work". I know you are supposed to cast those thoughts away but they always lingered. Even now thinking about trying to start up again these thoughts haunt me.

It took myself 6 months to respond to my host at all, and a year to respond consistently.

7:06 AM

I suggest to just keep trying.

intent, believe and love are key. everything will flow from there

That... or be one of the lucky ones with an accidental tulpa.

something you might try is asking them to try to give you head pressures. That helped Emily and i. We went with left temple for no, right temple for yes

I do not think that is very helpful, Syfar.

Sowy (edited)

I see what you mean though.

7:10 AM

I had this journal that I would write in, explaining just a lot to Quantum. When I started out I didn't really see anything different but after a while of meditating and focusing on her, then writing like I did I would get a sort of headache, that would start up when I started writing and then stop when I stopped writing.

that sounds like head pressure. A headache wth no real pain?

Yes, I don't mean to sound gross or disturbing but it felt like a squeezing in my brain, in the center.

aye

7:13 AM

try having them direct that pressure to either side, rather than the center

I haven't started forcing again. It may sound kind of stupid but I fear that if I start up again with Quantum, since I just stopped about a year ago, What will she think of me? What if she hates me because of what I've done?

I doubt that. She will likely understand why you stopped.

love her, and believe her, and she'll likely understand. Again, intent above all

If you truly believe that with all your heart, it will come to pass. Your expectations will shape what sort of response you'll get back.

7:16 AM

Believe in the love.

aye

7:17 AM

long as you're not abusive, then it should be good

7:17 AM

they'll likely sense your anxiety on the subject, and it may bother them, but likely in the direction of wanting to soothe that away

tupper will love, tupper will understand. Make sure to hug and snug to make things better

What's it like having a fully formed tulpa? (edited)

having a friend in your head, eager to explore the world

That is a hard question to answer.

7:20 AM

It is very broad.

again, if you're not abusive

[Tiresome, but perhaps worth it. It's fun sometimes. Hosts are a drag.]

Having dealt with that type of stuff personally, I would never want to harm my tulpa. I can't even hurt a fly without feeling bad. I'm really empathetic when it comes to these types of things, I want to help and not harm.

then there should be no issues

I came in here really anxious to even type a single word, but hearing this has really helped with that. I am going to try forcing again. Hopefully, in the not so distant future you guys can meet Quantum.

glad to hear it. folk will almost always be around to chat with and hhelp

I know that forcing is different for everyone, and that some things work with some people and some don't. I want to ask what worked best for you? I'm looking to try a few new things

I used the old fashion "assume sentience, ball of light, list of favorable traits" method.

When I created Angel, I would bake and cook, explaining how I was creating each thing, telling her the recipes.

My tups both had an unintentional memory block that left them with basically zero knowledge of the world or its workings at the start. Showing and explaining to them everything we came across has been something we've all treasured dearly. It wasn't just at first: I remember sitting in front of a fire pit with a 4-month-old Twilight and a newly-made Dash and explaining what fire is to both of them, because neither really understood it or had seen it before. Show your tup the world. It's great.

Did you guys meditate on your tulpa? I would meditate and focus on Quantum's features and personality but I am not sure if that's essential, or if its something to make it all smoother.

Mediation clears away other thoughts.

7:36 AM

It's easier to make your tulpa your whole world for just a few minutes or so. (edited)

So, is it one of those "too little meditation and there won't be and an effect, then too long of meditation can leave you not focused on your tulpa"?

No, you can meditate for however long feels comfortable.

7:49 AM

I gave you a low estimate because some people have trouble focusing. ^^;

I did, I would focus on Quantum and then get distracted by all these thoughts and then I would stop then go to active forcing.

7:53 AM

I'm going to download an app to help me meditate and combine it with active forcing. So it will hopefully get easier on active forcing while meditating.

7:55 AM

I'm getting pretty tired so I'm going to get some rest. I'll see you guys later, thanks you all for your help and helping me get back into tulpamancy.

You named your tulpa Quantum?

12:32 PM

That's so badass

I based it of an OC I made a while back. I've always been interested in Quantum mechanics and I made my OC off that since it's something I enjoy studying.

@salad Do you know what caused that memory block? Also, do you have any idea how to induce a temporary memory or thought block? I'm interested in dabbling in that sort of thing

I do not. I have a theory that it may be related to how quickly Twi was created - an hour or two to vocality? There must have been a precursor proto-tulpa of some kind but neither of us recall anything like that. The memory block could have been set up by her early on to facilitate development how I expected it, or perhaps how the proto-tup wanted.

12:15 AM

A temporary memory or thought block I can't really comment on either.

How does one interact with their tulpa while watching a show?

I just feel her reactions

Oh so don't stop every two seconds to ask her what she thinks?

2:09 AM

Gotcha

I mean you can if you’re being really intentional about it

2:18 AM

I imagine it gets easier after getting your tulpa to be vocal and bot just speaking in tulpish

2:18 AM

I personally am a big movie talker so that helps

Same

2:25 AM

I can never seem to stfu

If you can't bring yourself to talk to them while watching a show, maybe try some casual imposition, like feeling their hand on your arm or head on your shoulder, if you're into that kind of thing. Makes it easier not to forget about them.

Yeah I'll try that

Try reading to her

2:13 PM

Take breaks to ask her what she thinks of the characters

hey question, how do you read to your tulpa?

3:09 PM

and how is it any different from reading to yourself?

When you read to yourself, you only absorbing the information, when you read to your tulpa, you are reading to them, as you would another person. Maybe addressing them, asking if they understand, pointing out something you find interesting to them.

^

3:11 PM

Basically it’s a matter of directing your thoughts to your tulpa as you read, rather than just regularly reading

As if you're reading to someone else, except not verbally.

My host always found reading to me difficult, she wrote to me instead

Would writing to my tulpa be more helpful then reading?

Depends on you

3:16 PM

My host preferred it because it was more personal

3:16 PM

She was sending me her thoughts while writing, instead of someone else's words

3:16 PM

She also really likes writing

Cool

3:17 PM

Have advise on what to wright to my tulpa?

Anything

I personally would not do either, not because either are bad. Just forcing is very personal experience.

3:18 PM

I liked to pretend I was on a cooking show, explaining to Angel how to cook certain things.

That sounds fun

so how exactly do I direct thoughts to her

3:20 PM

do I say.....this information is for you or like imagine her with me or what?